So Vajrayana practitioners cannot go near Dorje Shugden? Idiotic.

Mad cow disease caused by Shugden followers? Completely insane.

Breaking with leaders is “unnacceptable behaviour”? Extremely silly.

“For the sake of Tibetan religion and politics, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, the overall head of all Buddhist Traditions on this earth, has given admonition not to worship the spirit Dholgyal. For the leaders who are High Lamas, Abbots, Tulkus, representatives, extend fully support on 10th meeting. Furthermore, through this meeting, they appreciates and praise the monks of Gelugpa monasteries for picking the vote-stick accorded the Vinaya and completely relinquishing the religious and material ties with Dholgyal worshippers.”

Hmmm. Slightly over-extended themselves?! The Dalai Lama is not even the head of the four Buddhist schools, let alone all the other Buddhist traditions “on this earth”!! Its all sounding a bit too much like “Dear Leader”. This is what the NKT are up against.

Thanks or the clarification newkadampatruth.

Bravo! thanks for your inspiring post

I predict that if the NKT survives all this blah blah blah and is still around in the year 2029 or so (and I think that it will be), then by that time it will be highly regarded as one of the best-respected and most authoritative Buddhist organizations in the world. There are too many good people in the NKT doing too many good things for the Titanic known as “public opinion” not to eventually turn.

In reality, I think that we can be “like peacocks” and happily eat the poisonous fruits being thrown at us, and in the long run they will only make us stronger and healthier.

For myself, as I read things that are so blatantly intolerant and inhospitable, it makes me ask myself, “If I have the karma to be on the receiving end of this, what actions did I commit in this life or previously that are at fault for this appearance to my mind?” Knowing that all these criticisms boil down to my own burden of negative karma really helps me to check my mind, and ferret out my own intolerant, inhospitable, and very un-Buddhist-like views.

I for one have some very incorrect, non-bodhichitta views, and watching others flaunt these views is teaching me a lot about my own mind.

If many NKTers out there are having similar experiences, and using everything that has been happening as one giant “opponent force” to purify wrong views and negative karma of speech, then by 2029 we truly WILL be an incredibly pure tradition, and (ironically) the massive waves of criticism for having used the word “pure” to describe our lineage will be the very vehicle that gets us to that purity!!!

When waves arise, surf. How wonderful that we are all going through this; what an excellent opportunity to improve renunciation, compassion, and the correct view of emptiness. I love Dharma!

“The fact that your cult founder broke with the leaders of his own tradition and his own nation in order to continue this practice puts him outside of acceptable behavior, not others.”

I’m flabbergasted! Does he really believe this? If so the Dalai Lama really has done a good hatchet job on the Gelugpa tradition.

Geshe Kelsang is the one who DIDN’T break with the leaders of his own tradition, the Dalai Lama did, however. It’s Geshe Kelsang who is following the mainstream whereas the Dalai Lama is creating his own version of the Gelugpa tradition, not in line with views and intentions of previous Gelugpa Lineage Gurus such as Je Pabongkhapa and Trijang Rinpoche. Until the Dalai Lama came along, it was ‘acceptable behaviour’ to practise Dorje Shugden – in fact it was the norm.

A well known Dorje Shugden practitioner once said that the Dalai Lama was trying to change history but I didn’t believe it. Now I can see that it’s true when his followers post a version of ‘history’ which is simply a lie. It’s shocking how quickly the lie has spread until it is quoted as ‘fact’.

i hadn’t seen the link to your site (and it looks like i won’t get the opportunity to now, either, if it’s being removed).

go in peace.